Post by natecouncil52 on May 20, 2015 11:30:58 GMT -6
As I've mentioned in some of my previous comments on other rules I support most any rule that would eliminate doubt and argument. There's nothing I hate more than stoppage of play because a player is arguing with a referree and the only basis the ref has to defend his or her call is a subjective rule. So, I propose that we make resetting the shot clock unarguable by making it so that when a ball is thrown, in order to reset the shot clock, the opposing team player must have no choice but to block, catch, or dodge said throw.
Give it thought. I know I'd be against this rule initially if I was still in the league but the more solid ground we can give an official to stand on the smoother games will run and the less arguing will occur.
An issue I can think of: Team A throws the ball and Player B and everyone can tell its a low floater that will land near Player B's foot. The ball lands significantly close to Player B's foot but does not hit it and Player B didn't move his foot to "dodge" the throw, what happens? I think if Player B has enough courage to not move (dodge) the low throw then the shot clock willl not be reset. But if Player B were to jump, lift up one leg, or do any other quick movements away from the landing zone then the player saw the throw as a threat and the shot clock should be reset
Let me know your thoughts. I'd love to hear them. And for those of you who don't know me I'm a former player at SVSU Aaaand that's about it
Also, this was typed on my phone so please forgive grammatical errors
Post by colemanmy12 on May 25, 2015 9:56:39 GMT -6
Scenario: Team A 3 players 6 balls 3 seconds remaining Team B 1 player 4 balls 7 seconds remaining Team A sets up an expertly coordinated 3 man team throw too close out the point. Team B player sees the play developing and begins to sprint laterally up the baseline. At the moment of team A's release on the last second of their shot clock(queue slow motion) team B's last hope slams on the brakes as he raises his shield to the brace himself for impact. To his surprise, the incoming throws wizz closely by as if God himself redirected the flight paths of the balls(resume normal speed).
Whistle blows as a shot clock violation is called on team A?
Post by Dylan Fettig on May 26, 2015 21:49:18 GMT -6
I like the direction of this rule, but I don't think it quite hits the mark. Mar suggested this in the above post but we would end up penalizing teams literally all the time for missing their target. Think about how many times people make a throw and miss. Even if the throw was chest level and missed by inches, with this rule that throw would not reset the shot clock. There would be a huge increase in shot clock violations, meaning more stoppages in play and longer games.
I have been thinking about this rule myself and a different way to address it would be to do something like a soccer offsides call. You would keep the legitimate throw zone as it currently is, but the "forward dimension" of the legitimate zone would be reduced to the forward depth of the target player. So basically you have to throw the ball at least to as far as their toes to reset the shot clock. This would still allow the thrower to be able to put it outside of their body to try and make them reach for it and will be lenient on throws that barely missed their mark. This rule would eliminate the short throws that are only ever going to reset the clock and stall time which is what we want to eliminate with this rule and would be easier to officiate fairly because there is no "close enough" judgement to be made on short throws.
We actually already have this rule in place at the throw lines since a thrown ball has to clear the opponents throw line (the farthest a target can be forward) to be legitimate.
Dylan Fettig #24
NCDA Director of League Expansion
Grand Valley Alumni
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