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Post by mccarthy55cmu on Oct 2, 2010 1:15:29 GMT -6
Give your reason(s) for why and how is should be be changed.
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Post by mccarthy55cmu on Oct 2, 2010 1:17:28 GMT -6
I think we need to implement the rule that a stop watch/shot clock must be used for each match. If a tournament is being held all teams participating should be responsible for supplying their own stop watch/ shot clock.
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Post by svcard27 on Oct 2, 2010 15:59:23 GMT -6
yes... simply because people cant count.. i wish it were a problem of someone counting too fast.. but more often then not, its one side counting too slow while the other is right on
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Post by togaman on Oct 4, 2010 21:11:22 GMT -6
What I would request is a clarification if the throw has to be before or during the count of 15. It seems that refs will say 15 or 10 and THEN a player throws. It causes problems. Even in our first game this year, both teams had trouble adhering to the shot clock.
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Post by mccarthy55cmu on Oct 4, 2010 22:08:47 GMT -6
So Bomis, on second 15 we can still throw, but as soon as 15 is said and done with if they haven't thrown then the violation is in affect.
Example: I let go of the ball on 15 I am still safe from a violation.
Si or No?
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Post by Zigmister on Oct 5, 2010 3:04:47 GMT -6
I think we need to implement the rule that a stop watch/shot clock must be used for each match. If a tournament is being held all teams participating should be responsible for supplying their own stop watch/ shot clock. The way i'm working it out in the mechanics is, in short, each shot clock official uses any personal timepiece that displays seconds. They keep an eye on the timepiece, keep an eye on the game, and count to fifteen in sync with the timepiece. This timepiece could be a basic wrist watch with a seconds hand, which are so much cheaper than buying a shot clock.
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Post by stokesj on Oct 5, 2010 7:08:42 GMT -6
I can already see the problem of people either watching the watch/clock too long and not paying attention to the throws, therefore missing some throws or they completely disregard the clock and just count to their own tempo. Like I've said before I don't particularly care the speed at which they are counting, as long as the two refs are in sync.
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Post by Zigmister on Oct 5, 2010 13:56:01 GMT -6
Ya, That was one of my first thoughts, but I'll refer to Bomis' come back to this proposal - "If you can drive a car and stay under the speed limit" but I have the official holding the watch just below face level too.
Aalso, i hope to get all the mechanics done by the end of the week. i couldn't resist posting this timepiece thing, but I'll shut up and get back to work
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Post by mccarthy55cmu on Oct 5, 2010 15:22:34 GMT -6
That's why I am saying we need a shot clock. Because with a shot clock the buzzer goes off unless the clock is reset. If the buzzer goes off they know that there was a violation.
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Post by WKU-Perrone-76 on Oct 5, 2010 17:02:33 GMT -6
Shot clocks are ridiculously overpriced. I've been looking at some and the cheapest I could find are around $350. Why are they so expensive??? They are a little device that counts down from 15, that's it. Doesn't seem too complicated to me. You can buy a brand new netbook for $300, and that does WAY more than count down from 15.
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Post by mccarthy55cmu on Oct 5, 2010 22:43:59 GMT -6
But then they are concientrated on the watch and not the game bomis. They are looking at the watch at second 15 instead of the ball being released from a players hand.
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Post by mccarthy55cmu on Oct 6, 2010 11:52:56 GMT -6
I'm telling you Bomis, people are going to miss it, because at SECOND 15 they are going to be looking at the watch and not at the balls being released.
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Post by stokesj on Oct 6, 2010 13:59:09 GMT -6
That's when the refs are going to have to do what Bomis explained earlier. If they're about to make a throw around 13, 14 then expect them to get it off by 15. But if they haven't started by 14 it'll probably be a shot clock violation 90% of the time.
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