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Post by WKU-Perrone-76 on Mar 13, 2013 23:40:19 GMT -6
Hey guys, WKU has had this idea for a t-shirt for three years now, so a few weeks ago we took the steps to try to get it approved by the university. Today I got an email saying we couldn't have the tshirts made because it "jeopardizes the integrity of WKU" and we could not sell them to raise money for the club otherwise we'll be reprimanded and the such. So now my idea is to make it a league-wide shirt, and the funds we raise can go toward lowering the national tournament entry fee for next year, or could pay costs for legal fees and the websites. I found a website that will make them for around $4.50/shirt and we could sell them for $10 a shirt. On the front of the shirt, it has a big "Delta" and "Beta" Greek symbol, underneath that it would say "NCDA DODGEBALL". On the back it reads, "IT'S LIKE A FRAT, (second line) BUT WITH BALLS". I know some of the guys who play dodgeball are involved in the greek systems at their schools, but I still think they would get a kick out of these, I know WKU's greek players love the idea. What do you guys think?
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Post by cg on Mar 14, 2013 6:22:58 GMT -6
I question how much profit could be generated from this. The real question here is how much value can be captured from outside the NCDA as opposed to having players pay more in different ways.
WARNING: INCOMING MATH Let's say that the likely outcome is 100 shirts sold, all from within the NCDA ranks. That's about 1 in 4 players, so it's a pretty optimistic guess, but let's roll with it. $5 profit per unit * 100 units = $500.00, or $25 per each team (20 teams). On average, each team ended up paying for five shirts, or $50. So each team paid $50, and in return they get 5 shirts and $25. That doesn't defray the cost at all, since they ended up with less cash than they started with - they get the shirts, though.
The bottom line is that, form a business perspective, you would need a product that would sell in large numbers to people outside the organization. That does provide a bit of a silver lining for you, though - if you're not trying to sell them to make $, does the marketing wing of WKU care? I would think that plenty of clubs/im leagues have plenty of inappropriate shirt designs and aren't reprimanded or such because they aren't trying to make a buck off the school's branding.
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Post by WKU-Perrone-76 on Mar 14, 2013 16:06:25 GMT -6
They told us absolutely not. We're not allowed to do anything with this idea. The Sport Club Dept at WKU is really serious about this kind of stuff, when we hosted nationals we couldn't even have WKU, Western Kentucky University, or Western on the shirts without having to pay WKU royalties and used an approved vendor which would have doubled the price of the shirts. They hate fun.
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Post by cg on Mar 14, 2013 16:13:52 GMT -6
I take it that they would also put the kibosh on "dodgeball club," then. What about taking the shirt on the right and just having "DODGEBALL" underneath? It's not like they have a license on a red/white/black color scheme.
They can get you on selling them to the general population, and they can get you on using their licensed marks. Personal use only and devoid of licensing makes me think that you'd be safe, though there may be a Sport Club Dept policy provision to the contrary.
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Post by WKU-Perrone-76 on Mar 14, 2013 16:17:25 GMT -6
I'll look over the policy book and let you know.
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Post by hiller 87 on Mar 16, 2013 1:18:08 GMT -6
I'm bored at work, and I'm trying to get a team for the Elite Dodgeball Invitational in June. I wanted to do a "Team USA" design, and this is what I made: what do people think? (not trying to steal your thunder Felix, just trying to make a cool shirt that we could get! I'm all for more dodgeball apparel)
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